What's AMD up to? v2

[impar]

Greetings!

The AMD Trinity Review (A10-4600M): A New Hope
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If you’re hoping to see a repeat of the Hammer launch back in 2003 with Trinity today, you’re going to be disappointed. AMD has made no claims or even hints that Trinity is going to go toe-to-toe with Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge-E in processor benchmarks. Instead, the marketing material and reviewer’s guides are more about telling a story of good performance, balance, and flexibility with a price point that won’t have you looking for a loan. Sometimes the best way to take down a massive empire isn’t by lining up your heavy guns and trading blows until one side capitulates—in such battles, the larger/wealthier corporation almost always wins. Instead, it’s the plucky little ships that can outmaneuver the big guns that can sometimes come out ahead. Will Trinity be AMD’s X-wing to Intel’s Ivy Bridge death star? Read on for our full analysis.

[powerarmour]

Greetings!

The AMD Trinity Review (A10-4600M): A New Hope
...
If you’re hoping to see a repeat of the Hammer launch back in 2003 with Trinity today, you’re going to be disappointed. AMD has made no claims or even hints that Trinity is going to go toe-to-toe with Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge-E in processor benchmarks. Instead, the marketing material and reviewer’s guides are more about telling a story of good performance, balance, and flexibility with a price point that won’t have you looking for a loan. Sometimes the best way to take down a massive empire isn’t by lining up your heavy guns and trading blows until one side capitulates—in such battles, the larger/wealthier corporation almost always wins. Instead, it’s the plucky little ships that can outmaneuver the big guns that can sometimes come out ahead. Will Trinity be AMD’s X-wing to Intel’s Ivy Bridge death star? Read on for our full analysis.

Ivy Bridge looks unusually strong in that review though!, improved drivers already?

[impar]

Greetings!

AMD's A10-4600M 'Trinity' APU
The second-gen APU makes solid strides forward

[Seawolf]

already?

what's stranger is it's only Anands review...
beta drivers? not owning up to a mistake? I can't tell

[powerarmour]

already?

what's stranger is it's only Anands review...
beta drivers? not owning up to a mistake? I can't tell

Does seem a bit weird, but then again it's only comparing against the mobile Piledriver version, whereas HD4000 is more desktop based I guess.

Heck if Intel put the HD4000 into their i3's then that would really shake the low end market up, but while it's still only in their high end procs, it's still somewhat wasted.

[impar]

Greetings!

The Bulldozer Aftermath: Delving Even Deeper
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Although there have been quite a few attempts to understand what Bulldozer is all about, we cannot help but feel that many questions are still unanswered. Since this architecture is the foundation of AMD's server, workstation, and notebook future (Trinity is based on an improved Bulldozer core called "Piledriver"), it is interesting enough to dig a little deeper. Did AMD take a wrong turn with this architecture? And if not, can the first implementation "Bulldozer" be fixed relatively easily?

We decided to delve deeper into the SAP and SPEC CPU2006 results, as well as profiling our own benchmarks. Using the profiling data and correlating it with what we know about AMD's Bulldozer and Intel's Sandy Bridge, we attempt to solve the puzzle.
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[Tabajara]

Greetings!

The Bulldozer Aftermath: Delving Even Deeper
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Although there have been quite a few attempts to understand what Bulldozer is all about, we cannot help but feel that many questions are still unanswered. Since this architecture is the foundation of AMD's server, workstation, and notebook future (Trinity is based on an improved Bulldozer core called "Piledriver"), it is interesting enough to dig a little deeper. Did AMD take a wrong turn with this architecture? And if not, can the first implementation "Bulldozer" be fixed relatively easily?

We decided to delve deeper into the SAP and SPEC CPU2006 results, as well as profiling our own benchmarks. Using the profiling data and correlating it with what we know about AMD's Bulldozer and Intel's Sandy Bridge, we attempt to solve the puzzle.
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Seems to me that the tone of that article is that "Yes, with Bulldozer AMD managed to shoot its foot in a elaborated manner".

[Seawolf]

Seems to me that the tone of that article is that "Yes, with Bulldozer AMD managed to shoot its foot in a elaborated manner".

Might just be beating a dead horse at this point, but what we all really want to know is whether AMD can salvage this.

[Tabajara]

Maybe with Trinity they will be able to tune it. If even the P4 could be improved, Bulldozer will certainly be able to give a little more, closer to AMDs initial plan. If they get closer to the targeted frequency, 3 ghz, the performance should be a lot better.

[ashland_thunder]

My industry 'sources' tell me that Trinity is a good place to look for what the future of AMD holds. Remember, AMD bought http://www.seamicro.com which specializes in high density-low power server architecture.
In the old days you would buy a server based on the peak load you were expected to see on that server. It may have only hit that peak twice a day, but by golly that server better be able to handle it. The other 23.9 hours a day you were just paying for that chip to produce heat.
With the new SeaMicro systems using Opteron cpus you will see high core density per socket/unit in a visualized environment. With the advanced resource pooling you don't have to worry near as much about that server that gets hit real hard twice a day.
Here is a good review on Trinity that takes a different approach. http://semiaccurate.com/2012/05/17/is-a ... t-appears/
So I think we're all being very short-sighted about AMD's architecture.