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magnus
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True each driver has its own way.
The big question is how much different is it and would corruption in the end be a major loss of data or nothing more then a minor fix.
In this case i think the data itself is likely going to be safe but driver changes may cause the need for a fresh install.
Still as always we do at our own risk and though i have been unaffected over a long period of time there is no way to be sure another hardware setup would be the same. |
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TwL
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| magnus wrote: |
True each driver has its own way.
The big question is how much different is it and would corruption in the end be a major loss of data or nothing more then a minor fix.
In this case i think the data itself is likely going to be safe but driver changes may cause the need for a fresh install. |
do not understand what do you mean? The lost is entire partition when it corrupts right NTFS system files or file/folder data or as long it has written. It ain't anything minor to fix it's new system install and the important user data lost which is very good reason why not to suggest such to anyone.
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| Still as always we do at our own risk and though i have been unaffected over a long period of time there is no way to be sure another hardware setup would be the same. |
Indeed, there's always risks people are willing to take, but some of risks aren't worth taking for some simplistic support. At least in a averate computer user who just comes here to look a bit better drivers. Beside as there is Vista native alternative which is faster then any of these although not any more reliable then these I'd still say it's an better choise to take.
forgot to say. This has absolutely nothing to do with hardware.
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magnus
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: |
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You took it i was referring to the ntfs itself.
I was talking in general about how the driver may or may no corrupt and what forum it would take.
I have gone back and forth a few times and lost no data or suffered any corruption period.
This is over quite a long period of time now too and i suspect i know why in this case.
Vista was made with the idea that a good chunk of people would be upgrading from xp so there is a certain amount of built in redundancy for dealing with older systems.
Still counting on this to save ones butt is nuts since there are just to many hardware differences.
Friend upgraded from a n3 system to vista and lost alot of data since the new drivers could deal with the older systems writing.
In my case though i have all data backing up to a system built to do this on a nightly bases, iam crazy and times but not foolish...lol. |
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Fernando 1
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:08 am Post subject: |
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There are still no Vista drivers available, which do support S.M.A.R.T., not even the nForce IDE drivers of NVIDIA's brandnew Vista packs 15.17/15.18.
Nevertheless I have found a workaround how to get full S.M.A.R.T. support unter Vista by using the XP nForce IDE drivers of the 9.xx series.
Here is it:
http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?act=findpost&pid=16446
@ all Vista users, who want S.M.A.R.T. support by nForce IDE drivers:
Since the XP nForce IDE drivers v9.99.09 definitively do support S.M.A.R.T., it would be interesting to try the following test scenario:
1. Fresh install of Vista by booting off the DVD and loading the Vista 9.98 IDE drivers.
2. Manual enforced ("Have Disk") driver update within the Device Manager by loading the modded XP nForce IDE drivers v9.99.09 of my XP Performance pack. (Users with a RAID system should pay attention. Don't reboot unless you have updated the drivers of all NVIDIA related nForce IDE devices, even the hidden ones!).
I bet, that it will work, but I am not sure, if the system will be as stable as with the Vista IDE drivers.
Any feedback is much appreciated.
Good luck!
Fernando
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Fernando 1
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magnus
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| The question is are they stable and safe. |
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Fernando 1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| magnus wrote: |
| The question is are they stable and safe. |
No risk, no fun...  |
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magnus
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| Fernando 1 wrote: |
| magnus wrote: |
| The question is are they stable and safe. |
No risk, no fun... |
True very True. |
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Fernando 1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| magnus wrote: |
| Fernando 1 wrote: |
| magnus wrote: |
| The question is are they stable and safe. |
No risk, no fun... |
True very True. |
To minimize the risk for you, I have posted the following at NVIDIA Forums:
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@ warning077:
Before other Vista users are going to install the XP nForce IDE drivers v9.99.09, they certainly would like to know, if these XP drivers have the same stability and performance as the Vista drivers v9.99.09.
Do you think, that these XP drivers are usable on a "working" Vista machine? |
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A.Balthazor
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: Oddly enough... 15.17 works ok with RAID-1 on nforce4 |
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Although I had originally uninstalled 15.17 because I was getting BSODs when using SLI, I tracked it down to a motherboard setting that was overclocking my GPUs in addition to the factory OC they already had.
After disabling this setting (PEG Link, I hate you) I re-installed 15.17 and don't appear to have any issues. (Prior to this I was using Fernando's 'performance' SATA/RAID drivers for Vista.)
I can run SMART self-tests fine on all four of my hard drives via the nVidia Control Panel. I use a pair of RAID-1 arrays. Perhaps the drivers only have a problem with RAID-0 setups? |
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