nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

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Re: nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

Postby radman3d » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:19 pm

There are four lines under Hardware IDs: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0055&SUBSYS_71001462&REV_F3
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0055&SUBSYS_71001462
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0055&CC_010485
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0055&CC_0104

It is an IDE DVD/CD-ROM that is on the PCI IDE Controller, Device ID: 10de-0053.

The Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller Hardware IDs looks very similar to above: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0053&SUBSYS_71001462&REV_F2
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0053&SUBSYS_71001462
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0053&CC_01018A
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0053&CC_0101

Yes, the correct version is 10.6.0.18 for nvraid.sys. I do not see a version for nvstor.sys. I do have Windows 7 64 with SP1, maybe that is why it installed so easy and I mean easy...the easiest install of windows I have ever had. If not for this one issue, the best too!

Hope I got everything you asked for, if not let me know.

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Re: nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

Postby Fernando 1 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:59 pm

Hello Jeff,

thanks for posting the requested HardwareID's of the NVIDIA nForce SATA and PATA Controllers.
Now it is clear: The DEV_0055 is the NVIDIA nForce4 AMD SATA2/RAID Controller and the DEV_0053 is the NVIDIA nForce4 AMD PATA/RAID Controller.
So you can replace the currently running Win7 in-box nForce SATA and RAID drivers v10.6.0.18 by any other nForce SATA and RAID driver version, which does support nForce4 AMD chipsets.
Important:
  1. If you want to install another nForce SATA and RAID driver, you have to do it for all devices, which now are listed within the "Storage Controllers" secton.
  2. Don't change the driver of the "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller".
  3. Don't reboot between the driver installation procedures.
  4. After having manually installed the desired driver for all related NVIDIA nForce devices, but before you are going to reboot, you should make sure, that the listed "NVIDIA nForce RAID Controller", both "NVIDIA nForce RAID Devices" and both "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controllers" really have installed the offered driver version.
Good luck!
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Re: nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

Postby radman3d » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:16 am

The new (v6.99) drivers installed without a hitch, but it did not solve my sound issue. I really thought this was going to do it. I guess I will leave these drivers installed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but seems to me they are the latest drivers meant for my chipset and may even be the best to use? The ones that were installed were generic?

Creative talked about PCI issues with this chipset and their XFi XtreamGamer Sound Cards. This driver downgrade seemed to be on the right track. Back to square one with this issue.

I really have to ask myself was there a problem with this sound card under Windows XP 64? Because if not it must still be a driver issue.
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Re: nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

Postby Fernando 1 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:04 am

radman3d wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but seems to me they are the latest drivers meant for my chipset and may even be the best to use?
The v6.99 ones are the latest nForce SATA and RAID drivers for nForce4 AMD chipsets, but they were designed for being used with Windows XP and Windows Server 2003. You have to find out yourself, if they are the most appropriate nForce IDE drivers for your special hardware configuration.
According to my knowledge the customized nForce SATA and RAID drivers v9.99.09 usually are the best choice for nForce4 AMD systems. You will find them within my "Non-AHCI nForce Performance Pack for Win7Vista" (look >here<).
The ones that were installed were generic?
They are somehow generic, but only suitable by nForce chipset systems.

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Re: nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

Postby radman3d » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:35 pm

If I install the "Non-AHCI nForce Performance Pack for Win7Vista" is it not true that NCQ will not work?
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Re: nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

Postby Fernando 1 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:47 pm

radman3d wrote:If I install the "Non-AHCI nForce Performance Pack for Win7Vista" is it not true that NCQ will not work?
I am not sure about that, but I think, that the installation of the nForce SATA and RAID drivers v9.99.09 is worth a try.
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Re: nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

Postby radman3d » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:33 pm

I got the sound working by installing older sound drivers (v2.18.0013), I had v2.18.0015. I thought I had tried those older drivers before and maybe I did, but without the v6.99 RAID drivers. Wonder if that made a difference? I will try the v9.99 drivers soon and see if those are better. The thing is I do not know what to compare them with. I have used Sisoft Sandra in the past. Is there something that would be better to test the HDD speed? I have been testing HDD speed for comparison. Is that what I want to test to see what is better?
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Re: nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

Postby Fernando 1 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:56 pm

radman3d wrote:I have used Sisoft Sandra in the past. Is there something that would be better to test the HDD speed? I have been testing HDD speed for comparison. Is that what I want to test to see what is better?
The ATTO, CrystalDiskMark and HDTach Benchmark tools are able to compare the performance of the hdd by using different drivers.
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Re: nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

Postby radman3d » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:05 pm

Do you think there is any reason to go back to the MS Generic driver (10.6.0.18) to test? I'm going to test the v6.99 tomorrow with ATTO.

BTW, Thank you for all your help with this issue Fernando
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Re: nF4+Win7 - stuttering - SOLVED (+/- - read more for details)

Postby Fernando 1 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:15 pm

radman3d wrote:Do you think there is any reason to go back to the MS Generic driver (10.6.0.18) to test?
Yes, you may test them too.
By the way: These Win7 in-box nForce SATA and RAID drivers are not from Microsoft, but from NVIDIA.
radman3d wrote:Thank you for all your help with this issue Fernando
You are welcome!

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