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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject:

kortik wrote:
thanks for reply
its strage becuase
I dont have nvrd32.sys or nvgts.sys in windows\system32\drivers folder

all I have there is
nvata.sys
NVENETFD.sys
nvnrm.sys
nvnetbus.sys

but in the device manager
it looks like everything is updated
under IDE controllers I have
Nvidia nForce4 Serial ATA controller present which I didnt have before

before installing Fernandos drivers
I uninstalled nforce chip drivers firts before installing his


it just depends which drivers you updated. v6.99 and below = nvata??.sys, v9.92 and above = nvgts??.sys.. ?? would mean either nothing as in nvgts.sys or nvgts64.sys for 64bit systems, but I'd say as long the Device manager says it's up to date it is. Only 'but' in it would be windows standard style drivers which are left behind, but that kinda things you can get rid of with the cleanup after update of new drivers.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject:

so is it safe to run your driver clean up reg. stuff?
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject:

kortik wrote:
so is it safe to run your driver clean up reg. stuff?


What it simply does is it cleans (from register) up any other instance of nvxxxxx.sys drivers than the driver package had aka. kills the duplicated loading from system that's all. Is it safe? well as long new drivers are updated first and check on device manager it works every time as it's modded to each driver package separately by Fernando and if you would need the old entries back in register on update the Nvidia own cleanup restores the nvxxxxx entries in driver uninstall. So would say there's nothing to lose by running it perhaps some stability or even speed on some cases to gain.


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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject:

TwL wrote:
davidh44 wrote:
Fernando 1 wrote:
davidh44 wrote:
Do you know what is the benefit of "AHCI" for a Windows user?

I did some research on AHCI, and the only benefit I could find is NCQ support. But nVidia's non-AHCI v6.9x drivers already support NCQ, while many of nVidia's AHCI drivers that don't support NCQ.
You are right - there is not much benefit for most of the Windows XP users (maybe unless the hot-plugging feature).

If you give me the exact HardwareID (DEV_xxxx) of your nForce 610M Serial ATA Controller, I would be able to modify the INF file (if you want to use any AHCI capable nForce S-ATA driver).

Here are the HardwareID's:

This is for the SATA controller:
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0550&SUBSYS_30EA103C&REV_A2
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0550&SUBSYS_30EA103C
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0550&CC_010185
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0550&CC_0101

And for the PATA controller (MS IDE drivers are the best for PATA?):
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0560&SUBSYS_30EA103C&REV_A1
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0560&SUBSYS_30EA103C
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0560&CC_01018A
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0560&CC_0101


Get Sata_IDE Driver v10.3.0.21 open the .inf(nvgts.inf or nvgts64.inf depending is your system x64 or x86) file:

go to
Code:
[NVIDIA]

%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0266&CC_0101
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0267&CC_0101
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F6&CC_0101
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0554&CC_0106
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_07F4&CC_0106
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0AD4&CC_0106


and correct it like as below:
Code:
[NVIDIA]

%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0266&CC_0101
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0267&CC_0101
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F6&CC_0101
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0550&CC_0101
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0554&CC_0106
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_07F4&CC_0106
%NVSTOR_DESC%=Crush11_Inst,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0AD4&CC_0106


Option 2.. Don't edit the .inf file go straight to device manager > update all Serial ATA controllers straight over, but suggest you include device tags as above. On other drivers it would be exactly simlar except you

There's no PATA drivers anylonger. use the Standard IDE Controller provided by MS.


Thank you TWL.

I tried the following SATA-IDE versions, and they all cause Windows to BSOD during boot on my notebook with Geforce 7000M/nForce 610M AMD chipset:
v10.3.0.21 with XP x86 and Vista x86
v10.1.0.28 with XP x86 and Vista x86
v9.99.09 with XP x86 and Vista x86

The above work fine on my nForce405/430/520LE (MCP61) desktop PCs, but it seems my notebook with Geforce 7000M/nForce 610M AMD chipset does not like these drivers. Have you seen any nForce SATA-IDE drivers released specifically for nVidia's mobile chipsets?


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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject:

@davidh44

Search the problem elsewhere on the notebook. I do not believe it's the HD-SATA driver issue still. Anyhow, could post the BSOD error code, if possible.

and and.. yeah, Do one clean install order.. Clean everything up except MS drivers and install in order MS/HP/Intel updates (Mainly mean HD Audio, if missing and basic updated on WUA) > Audio > chipset > Graphics > other HW.. because stability issues are most commonly caused by Audio or Video drivers and specially in Nvidia case the Video drivers are attached to Harddrive drivers for some odd reason (Do not ask I do not know, but they are). Anyhow, all in all should go through suggest you use something really stabile as an Sata driver in that installation like v10.3.0.21 which are most stabile (but these might also bring new issue because they actually has the Hotplug enabled) So might even be better to go, if XP with v6.99 and on Vista systems with v9.98 for starters make it boot first good and stabilize the Superfetcher (See taskman that memory is cached) then update the latest drivers you wish to test.

Ps. Sorry for a novel Cool


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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject:

I am using Asus A8N32-SLi Deluxe now.... Which package should I be downloading?
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject:

ORiN wrote:
I am using Asus A8N32-SLi Deluxe now.... Which package should I be downloading?


That depends what you need. Package A. would be very stabile, but you would lose SMART info (aka. monitor temperatures) and NCQ (better performing on games.) Package B. you would lose SMART info but have nice performance with NCQ and with 'Optional non-AHCI IDE driver' you would have SMART but not the NCQ.

So depends on usage quite a bit. Package C. is for single SataIDE and performs better than probably Package A. on single SataIDE otherwise it would be the same.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject:

TwL wrote:
ORiN wrote:
I am using Asus A8N32-SLi Deluxe now.... Which package should I be downloading?


That depends what you need. Package A. would be very stabile, but you would lose SMART info (aka. monitor temperatures) and NCQ (better performing on games.) Package B. you would lose SMART info but have nice performance with NCQ and with 'Optional non-AHCI IDE driver' you would have SMART but not the NCQ.

So depends on usage quite a bit. Package C. is for single SataIDE and performs better than probably Package A. on single SataIDE otherwise it would be the same.


Hmm... So its not possible to have both? The optional non-AHCI driver don't seem to have everything in it. Do I download Package A and replace it with the file from the optional?
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject:

ORiN wrote:
TwL wrote:
ORiN wrote:
I am using Asus A8N32-SLi Deluxe now.... Which package should I be downloading?


That depends what you need. Package A. would be very stabile, but you would lose SMART info (aka. monitor temperatures) and NCQ (better performing on games.) Package B. you would lose SMART info but have nice performance with NCQ and with 'Optional non-AHCI IDE driver' you would have SMART but not the NCQ.

So depends on usage quite a bit. Package C. is for single SataIDE and performs better than probably Package A. on single SataIDE otherwise it would be the same.


Hmm... So its not possible to have both? The optional non-AHCI driver don't seem to have everything in it. Do I download Package A and replace it with the file from the optional?


No.. and no..

You cannot have 'both', but you can choose between packages. Do not switch any files (if there would of been any change to have all supports the packages would of been build so). What goes to 'Optional Non-Ahci' no it doesn't have it all. It has S.M.A.R.T., but missing NcQ and it's slower than the new series v9.xx.xx and v10.x.x.xx serie of drivers.

I suggest if you got SataIDE just take the 10.1.0.28 "it doesn't support SMART" (Note: in x86/#2-bit systems all drivers supports SMART), but it's fast and NcQ is good to have speeds up literally everything, if it doesn't stay stabile (this is usually issues with other drivers) then go with v9.99.09 or v10.3.0.21(Generally new build supports, but not activatable AAM) which are without NcQ fastest there are and only go to v6.99 drivers (non-ahci), if you absolutely need to know the HDD tempeatures or read disk for errors.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject:

Hmm... Looks like I will be going for Package A since I need the stability The instructions for the optional package seem to be suggesting that I need to replace the files in package A in order to use it.

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