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impar
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Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 17738 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: Gaming platform - PC or Consoles? |
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Greetings!
| powerarmour wrote: |
| ... I can see that winning over many former PC gamers by giving them another option to buying an expensive hardware upgrade. |
Only need to get a 200-300 DX10 video card. No need to spend 600 in a PS3 to play UT3.
Some posts were originally here:
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/image-vp590120.html#590120
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Seawolf
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Joined: 23 Jun 2002 Posts: 14852 Location: In circles
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: |
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And another 200-300 if you need to upgrade to 2 gigs, and so on. Sadly, the massively pro piracy comments on PC gaming news sites are having a leveling effect on the prevalence of the PC as a gaming platform. Companies that wouldn't have even considered it before (such as iD and Epic) are going head on into consoles...
I won't be surprised to see the PC die off for gaming. It's not really suited to it anymore. Maybe Vista can slow the bleeding somewhat, but in general I'm not believing it.
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Tabajara
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Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 7919 Location: I'd rather be surfing
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| impar wrote: |
Greetings!
| powerarmour wrote: |
| ... I can see that winning over many former PC gamers by giving them another option to buying an expensive hardware upgrade. |
Only need to get a 200-300 DX10 video card. No need to spend 600 in a PS3 to play UT3.  |
But if you buy a PS3 that will be the last hardware piece you will need to acquire to play games for five years. How much have you spent on hardware for the last five years?  |
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Seawolf
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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PC hardware upgrades (though not replacements) are usually pretty cheap, and most people who use consoles (though I will) don't put them through the PC monitor. So the cost you're talking about (the console itself) can easily be changed factoring in TV upgrades, controller purchases, and any number of other possibilities. Not to mention sending it in for a replacement if it breaks, and/or warranty costs.
You could end up spending 3000 either way if you wanted to. Myself I still average less than 500 every four years on comp hardware.
Consoles really aren't as cheap as is commonly said, when you factor in all the stuff you need.
TV relates to monitor
kb+mouse relate to conrollers
speakers and networking are pretty much the same
So if you're looking at the CPU, mobo, vidcard, RAM, and case as the main differentiating factors, most people can definately get by with 600 in five years.
(That's ignoring that good TVs are significantly more expensive than good monitors, though.)
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Tabajara
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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You can use the good the TV for watching cable or movies as well, the console won't be the sole culprit. And 1080p sets are getting cheaper by the day  |
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Seawolf
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I can use my monitor for watching TV and movies too. I wasn't saying it wasn't useful for anything else, just that it's still an added cost that isn't figured into the base price. |
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powerarmour
--[papameister]-- Mod Squad

Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 11123 Location: Surrey, UK 'In Dead Space'
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impar
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Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 17738 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Greetings!
| Seawolf wrote: |
| And another 200-300 if you need to upgrade to 2 gigs, and so on. |
2GB RAM --- Check!
| Seawolf wrote: |
| Sadly, the massively pro piracy comments on PC gaming news sites are having a leveling effect on the prevalence of the PC as a gaming platform. |
Couldnt agree more. All my doubts were cleared when I read this:
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/image-vp588451.html#588451 -> the point 1
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| But if you buy a PS3 that will be the last hardware piece you will need to acquire to play games for five years. |
To properly enjoy a console I would have to replace my 8-9 year old 55cm Sony TV and get a proper sound system.
Considering I would still have the need for a PC and that I only watch 3-5 hours TV per week, console is not a good investment at all, for me.
| Tabajara wrote: |
| How much have you spent on hardware for the last five years? |
Usually spend double than the old pieces I sell. Buy new for 2, sell old for 1.
And I do use the tax benefit for geting a new PC, although its only 250€ and has been reduced to one time use in the 2006-2009 time frame.
You noticed Seawolfs link?  |
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Seawolf
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| Not sure why you moved the conversation out of the UT3 thread as it was perfectly relevant, if shifting a bit...a warning or something would've been fine. UT used to be a PC only series and the shift to consoles surprised people, so it was a natural branch to the topic. |
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Tabajara
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| The console market is also much bigger... It is a lot easier to sell millions of units when everyone has the proper hardware to play your game, won't have to deal with configuration issues. |
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